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    Established Member Feedback Score 1 (100%) Jack O'Neill's Avatar
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    Day 29/84 - End of Week 4/12

    Notation below is 0 if there's no effect (like I'm not in cycle), 10 if there's a max of effect

    Negative Side effects :
    Acne : 0/10
    Headaches : 1/10
    Leathargy : 2/10 (especially the first week, a bit less on the second. 8/10 on the first week)
    Prostate swelling : 5/10
    Irritability : 4/10
    Hair loss : 0/10
    Cramps : 2/10 (I stopped creatine in the PWO shake and in the end of the day to help it)

    Positive Side effects :
    Strength : 1/10 (very few changes since last week)
    Fat loss : 0/10
    Muscle mass : 1/10 (feel a bit larger. just a feeling)
    Recup : 5/10 (feel great next morning after workout)

    My infos this morning :
    Weight : 87.3kg / 192.1lbs (+1.3kg/+ 1.8lbs from start)
    Waist : 85.5cm / 33'7
    BF (Average of several formulas) : 14.2% (-0.2% from start)
    No changes since last week

    Body evolution Graph :
    Look below in attached thumbnails

    Followed diet this week :
    Carb Back-loading :
    * Day without workout : Fast until 12PM, Keto diet (+/-)
    * Day with workout : Fast until 12PM, Keto diet until the end of workout, then Carb Backloading

    Macros
    Without workout
    Prots : 215g
    Carbs : 0g
    Fat : 215g
    Total kCal : ~2800kCal: 10% above my maintenance

    With workout
    Prots : 285g
    Carbs : 150g (200g after legs workout)
    Fat : 150g
    Total kCal : ~3100-3300kCal: Up to 30% above my maintenance

    Workouts of this week
    Look below in attached thumbnails

    Karate sessions this week, give 2 cardio sessions in the week.

    Changes for the next week :
    As discussed in this post, I will short my cycle and modify posology.

    So here what is planned :
    8 Androlean
    6 Androhard
    4 pumps Androenhance

    I started this morning for 6 weeks. I so shorted my cycle from 12 to 10 weeks but I upped dosage for Androproducts. I removed Androdrive 'cause I don't see any effects on my mind.

    and always, 2 spoons of Toco-8, creatine, leucine, Whey, Malto....

    Concerning macros, I will up proteins level from 215 to 260 (230g for fat) for OFF days, up to 300g (prots) and 190g (fat) for ON days.
    For carbs, I will keep the same amount for this week.

    This will give about 3150kCal on OFF days and 3580kCal on ON days

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    SUMMARY

    I modify my cycle 'cause I don't see any changes in my body today. This is maybe a brain effect but I feel that I am larger but not leaner (I didn't gain any fat I'm sure)

    I took pictures this morning but there's no change from the start, so I don't think it's useful to upload them. However I didn't compare day 1 to day 29 pictures.... I will see if I upload them

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    ANNEX - ATTACHED PICTURES

    WeightFollowUp 19.11.12.jpgWorkoutFollowUp 19.11.12.jpg
    Last edited by Jack O'Neill; 11-19-2012 at 01:26 AM.

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    Established Member Feedback Score 0 markam's Avatar
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    You said;

    "Concerning macros, I will up proteins level from 215 to 260 (230g for fat) for OFF days, up to 300g (prots) and 190g (fat) for ON days.
    For carbs, I will keep the same amount for this week.

    This will give about 3150kCal on OFF days and 3580kCal on ON days"

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    I'm trying to run this at a calorie deficit, some days 2000Kcal some days more. I think you need to reduce your calories a lot, then you'll see an effective recomp. This is a cutting cycle, right? I'm 91kgs @ 14-15% BF and hoping to reduce weight and BF, so far I initially dropped some weight but now my weight seems stable but I'm losing BF and gaining muscle, but quite slowly. I have four weeks left out of a 8 week cycle. You really need to drop the calories much lower, imo.

    Edit. Just want to add that this cycle does feel very mild and I was tempted to add in some Mechabol, but decided against it. AL will deliver the results, and maybe you won't feel that 'on', but the low sides, minimal suppression are a a big win, imo.
    Last edited by markam; 11-19-2012 at 04:27 AM.

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