Testim gel

[nate3993]

Wouldn't Testim cause shut down since its an exogenous source of testosterone, thus causing zero natural test in the system? I've never used it so maybe this is a dumb question, but how would that work?

yes. it will cause shutdown. jw says that in his post. that's why he says "it would not prevent shutdown of your own test, and would still go into pct flatlined"

[somm]

yes. it will cause shutdown. jw says that in his post. that's why he says "it would not prevent shutdown of your own test, and would still go into pct flatlined"

Wow, I guess I just need to learn how read slower lol...I completely missed the "not" part.

[jw390898]

It will benefit you on cycle as to not have the symptoms of zero test is beneficial but taking in an artificial source of testesterone is suppressive to your own production so PCT would need to be every bit as thorough still.