Barbaar's recovery journey

[Maxout777]

Damn I didn't know it was a 5ARI.. although I have taken it before without any lasting issues. I think I'll carefully try a low dose, the lack of sleep is really getting to me and actual sleeping pills do mess me up for a while (found that out the hard way lol)

Yeah sleep pills are hit or miss. Especially avoid the pharmaceutical ones. I found something that always worked for me when I had the crippling insomnia was the Iron Mag Labs “Dream N Grow” product. Combined melatonin, GABA, L-Theanine, others - with Kratom. It worked really well for me but I used it only in dire situations.

[barbaar]

Yeah sleep pills are hit or miss. Especially avoid the pharmaceutical ones. I found something that always worked for me when I had the crippling insomnia was the Iron Mag Labs “Dream N Grow” product. Combined melatonin, GABA, L-Theanine, others - with Kratom. It worked really well for me but I used it only in dire situations.

Ah Dream N Grow sounds good! Although it has 5-htp which messes me up big time. Last time I took it (before I went on the protocol) I felt like I crashed all the way back to square one.

From the recommended sleep herbs the only thing I haven't tried yet is albizia, I'll have to include some in my next herb order. The others work ok, I especially like ziziphus but it doesn't really help you fall asleep, it just makes your sleep really deep and restful.

[Maxout777]

Ah Dream N Grow sounds good! Although it has 5-htp which messes me up big time. Last time I took it (before I went on the protocol) I felt like I crashed all the way back to square one.

From the recommended sleep herbs the only thing I haven't tried yet is albizia, I'll have to include some in my next herb order. The others work ok, I especially like ziziphus but it doesn't really help you fall asleep, it just makes your sleep really deep and restful.

Good catch - I forget from the other forum, you're PSSD. Definitely avoid the Serotonin-based substances and my advice is null now.